Desk 2 · two destinations · JP passport · verified 2026-08

Indonesia vs Thailand

3 lenses differ (2 land · 1 overlay). Highlighted rows disagree.

Verified 2026-08Method SourcesNationality is fixed. Cells are filed on each dest tax hub. Overlays stay separate pair URLs.

Passport hub: From Japan · home × land: JP × Indonesia · JP × Thailand · Two passports on Indonesia.

Side by side

Tax, stay and earn lenses from dest hubs — not invented fees. Purpose framing:

Work · remote · retire — which rows matter

Work — earn gate + tax days. Overlay for treaty short-stay.
Remote — stay instrument + foreign-income rule. Overlay for home traps.
Retire — stay instrument + pension articles on the overlay. Spend-down compare lives on ThonRetire.

Lens	Indonesia	Thailand
Tax-residence day test	183 days Source DJP Peraturan Direktur Jenderal Pajak Nomor PER-23/PJ/2025 — Penentuan Subjek Pajak Dalam Negeri dan Subjek Pajak Luar Negeri (full text on pajak.go.id, 9 Dec 2025) — Pasal 3: SPDN includes individuals present in Indonesia more than 183 days in any 12-month period Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	180 days Source Thailand Revenue Code §41 para 3 (rd.go.th/english/37749.html) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Foreign / worldwide income	yes Source DJP Peraturan Direktur Jenderal Pajak Nomor PER-23/PJ/2025 — Penentuan Subjek Pajak Dalam Negeri dan Subjek Pajak Luar Negeri (full text on pajak.go.id, 9 Dec 2025) — stacked with UU PPh: an SPDN individual is taxed on income wherever earned; PER-23 decides who is SPDN Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source Thailand Revenue Code §41 para 2 (bringing foreign assessable income into Thailand) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Top personal rate	35% Source UU 7/2021 (HPP) amending UU PPh Pasal 17 ayat (1) huruf a — progressive rates for domestic individual taxpayers; DJP / Kemenkeu republished Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	35% Source RD Guide to PIT Return 2024 (ภ.ง.ด.91) — official PDF rate table; matches thailand.go.th RD briefing (Revenue Code Amendment Act No. 44 B.E. 2560 schedule from tax year 2017). Note: rd.go.th/english/6045 still shows the pre-amendment 4m/35% top band and is not used for these cells. Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Long-stay instrument (filed)	5 years Source Kemlu/Imigrasi Golden Visa booklet — Second home E33 · 5 years Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	180 days Source Royal Thai Embassy Budapest DTV page — stay up to 180 days per entry Checked Aug 2026 · Band high · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Local earn gate (filed)	yes Source PP 34/2021 on Utilization of Foreign Workers — employer must obtain RPTKA approval before employing a foreign national; processed via Kemnaker TKA Online Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source Royal Thai Embassy Budapest DTV page — tourist-class DTV; no Thai work permit; no work for Thai entities/clients Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Treaty (JP)	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Japan P3B in force (effective 1983-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source Thai RD intro japan — signed 7 April 1990; instruments exchanged 1 August 1990; effect in Thailand from 1 Jan 1991 Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Employment short-stay	183 days Source JP–ID Art 15 — 183 days in the calendar year concerned — short-stay day ceiling Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	180 days Source Japan–Thailand Convention Art 14(1)(a) — not exceeding in the aggregate 180 days in the calendar year concerned (not 183) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Relief (double tax)	ordinary tax credit Source JP–ID Art 15 — 183 days in the calendar year concerned — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source Japan–Thailand Convention Art 21 — each State credits tax paid in the other, subject to treaty limits Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Art 4	Cascade no individual cascade — dual residence goes straight to competent-authority mutual agreement Source Japan–Indonesia P3B Art 4(2), full text published by DJP — individual dual-residence tie-breaker, read line-by-line 2026-08 Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	Cascade no individual cascade — dual residence goes straight to competent-authority mutual agreement Source Japan–Thailand Convention Art 4(2), MOF synthesised text Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
SSA / totalization	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Thailand Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Treaty pensions	yes Source JP–ID Agreement Art 18 (pajak.go.id MLI synthesised EN) — subject to Art 19(2), pensions and similar remuneration for past employment taxable only in the residence State Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source JP–TH Convention 1990 (Thai RD japan_e.pdf) — no dedicated private-pensions article; Art 14 carves pensions out of employment income; Art 17 covers government-service pensions only; residual private pensions fall under Art 20 other income (taxable only in the residence State, subject to PE connection) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Foreign-income hinge	yes Source DJP Peraturan Direktur Jenderal Pajak Nomor PER-23/PJ/2025 — Penentuan Subjek Pajak Dalam Negeri dan Subjek Pajak Luar Negeri (full text on pajak.go.id, 9 Dec 2025) — stacked with UU PPh: an SPDN individual is taxed on income wherever earned; PER-23 decides who is SPDN Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source Stack with Thailand Revenue Code §41 remittance basis (/thailand/tax) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.
Home-side traps	yes Source jp_vn_tax — exit tax / nenkin traps reuse across destinations Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source jp_vn_tax — exit tax / nenkin traps reuse across destinations Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.

Indonesia

Through a JP lens

JP → Indonesia tax Stay Earn Tax hub Home × land desk

Earn doors: Teaching · Hospitality · Tech · Diving · Own a business · Legal

Thailand

Through a JP lens

JP → Thailand tax Stay Earn Tax hub Home × land desk

Earn doors: Teaching · Hospitality · Tech · Diving · Own a business · Legal · Massage · Tour guide · Regulated work

Other pairs

Vietnam vs ThailandJP Thailand vs MalaysiaJP Vietnam vs PortugalJP Philippines vs IndonesiaJP Malaysia vs PortugalJP Thailand vs PortugalJP

Cross-check

Cross-check JP × Indonesia

Home × land · JP × Indonesia Two dests · JP From Japan Indonesia hub JP → Indonesia tax

JP across six lands

Land	Treaty	Relief	SSA	Open
Vietnam	yes Source Japan–Vietnam DTA 1995; MOF tax convention list; MOF synthesised text Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source Japan–Vietnam DTA Art 15 / Art 23; nguon/JP_VN_DTA_1995.md Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source MHLW / JPS social security agreement country lists — Vietnam not among agreements in force; MOFA press release 18 July 2025 only announces commencement of intergovernmental negotiations Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Vietnam
Thailand	yes Source Thai RD intro japan — signed 7 April 1990; instruments exchanged 1 August 1990; effect in Thailand from 1 Jan 1991 Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source Japan–Thailand Convention Art 21 — each State credits tax paid in the other, subject to treaty limits Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Thailand Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Thailand
IndonesiaHere	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Japan P3B in force (effective 1983-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source JP–ID Art 15 — 183 days in the calendar year concerned — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Indonesia
Philippines	yes Source BIR Philippine Double Taxation Agreements list — Japan treaty in force (effective 1981-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source Japan–Philippines Convention Art. 23 — each State grants credit for qualifying tax paid in the other State, subject to the treaty limits Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	yes Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force lists the Philippines among Japan’s implemented SSA partners Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Philippines
Malaysia	yes Source MOF Japan MLI list — Malaysia Original signed 19-02-1999, entered into force 31-12-1999; Protocol 10-02-2010 / 01-12-2010; MOF synthesised text of Agreement as modified by MLI Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source JP–MY DTA Art 15 (MOF synthesised text); relief Art 22 ordinary credit — Article 22 ordinary credit Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Malaysia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Malaysia
Portugal	yes Source Portugal OECD MLI consolidated position + AT DTC summary table (Parliament's Resolution 50/2012) — Convention between the Portuguese Republic and Japan, Original signed 19-12-2011, entry into force 28-07-2013 Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source JP–PT Convention Art 22 — Elimination of Double Taxation (Portugal credits Japanese tax; Japan credits Portuguese tax) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Portugal Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Portugal

Eight passports on Indonesia 8 overlays

Passport	Treaty	Relief	SSA	Open
AU	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Australia P3B in force (effective 1993-07-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source AU–ID Art 15(2) — 120-day short-stay (not 183); four limbs including taxability in residence State — Article 24 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source DSS — Australia international social security agreements list does not include Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	AU → Indonesia
SG	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Singapore P3B in force (effective 2022-01-01) (revised treaty replacing the 1990 agreement; confirm exact effective date on the DJP entry) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source SG–ID Art 15 — 183 days in any 12-month period — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source CPF Board / Singapore domestic CPF regime — no Singapore–Indonesia social security / CPF totalisation agreement published; same gate as sg_vn_social_security_agreement_in_force (nguon/SG_SIDE_TRAPS.md pattern) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	SG → Indonesia
KR	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — South Korea P3B in force (effective 1990-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source KR–ID Art 15 — 183 days in the fiscal year concerned — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source NPS social security agreements overview — Indonesia is not among Korea’s published SSA partners (MOU lump-sum paths elsewhere do not equal an SSA) Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	KR → Indonesia
CN	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — China P3B in force (effective 2004-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source CN–ID Art 15 — 183 days within any twelve-month period — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source MOHRSS / published China bilateral social security partner list (13 countries) does not include Indonesia — same gate as cn_vn_social_security_agreement_in_force Checked Aug 2026 · Band med · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	CN → Indonesia
JPHere	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Japan P3B in force (effective 1983-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source JP–ID Art 15 — 183 days in the calendar year concerned — Article 23 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source Japan Pension Service — Status of Agreements in Force (24 partners) does not include Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	JP → Indonesia
UK	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — United Kingdom P3B in force (effective 1995-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source UK–ID Art 15 — 183 days within any continuous twelve-month period; relief is Art 21 — Article 21 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source GOV.UK Reciprocal agreements + NI38 country lists do not include Indonesia as a UK social security agreement partner Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	UK → Indonesia
CA	yes Source DJP (pajak.go.id) tax treaty register — Canada P3B in force (effective 1999-01-01) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source CA–ID Art 15(2) — 120 days within any twelve-month period; short-stay also needs either CAD 5,000 ceiling or employer/PE limbs — Article 22 ordinary credit method Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source CRA countries-with-agreement table (Open Government CSV July 2024) does not list Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	CA → Indonesia
US	yes Source US–Indonesia Income Tax Convention signed Jakarta 11 July 1988; general effective date under Art 30: 1 January 1990 (irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/indo.pdf) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	ordinary tax credit Source US–Indonesia DTA Art 23 — foreign tax credit method (cell us_id_ftc_relief_art23 already filed) Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	no Source SSA — U.S. International Social Security (Totalization) Agreements list does not include Indonesia Checked Aug 2026 · Band low · Status fresh Open primary URL Method: figures past 2× SLA hide. See /method · /status · /changelog.	US → Indonesia